Llodra: 'Guns Save Lives Day' on 12/14 is 'Insensitive Timing'

Newtown's First Selectman has responded to reports that gun rights organizations are planning to use Dec. 14, 2013 as a day of support for guns.

Three gun rights organizations — the Second Amendment Foundation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and DefendGunRights.com — announced Thursday they would sponsor the day on the anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. 

First Selectman Pat Llodra says she respects their opinions, but asks the organizations not to use Newtown to host rallies.

"For this group to use our Sandy Hook tragedy as a springboard for political action is disrespectful to our community of Newtown and is of particularly insensitive timing," said Llodra in a statement released Friday.

"I respect their right to promote their beliefs regarding guns. I ask that they respect our community and not use us for their purposes. We will not host a political rally of any stripe on that day and we hope that all such inclined persons understand that they and their agenda are not welcome. We ask for privacy and expect that all caring folks, including the media, will accommodate us. Those persons, who choose to not accede to our request to be left alone, show the world their own moral and ethical fiber."

Gun rights groups say they're planning the campaign to counteract "what certainly will be a day of activism and misinformation from the gun prohibition lobby," according to DefendGunRights.com founder Larry Ward.

"Americans are concerned about attempts to erode their gun ownership rights, and for good reason," said Alan Gottlieb, president of the Second Amendment Foundation and chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. “Our mission with Guns Save Lives Day is to assure them our groups are working day and night to thwart government gun-grabbers at every opportunity. We are going to show America that there is a good side to guns."

The organizations have launched a website, GunsSaveLivesDay.com, and say they plan rallies in all 50 states on Dec. 14. 
AC October 13, 2013 at 08:37 PM
porter, I will change my mind like a liberal and default on CT's Constitution which says: "SEC. 15. Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state" See how easy it is to manipulate the system to get what I want? And who is the militia, anyways? It's me and you. George Mason, one of The Founders, says: "Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people, except for a few public officers." At the end of the day I could care less what your feeble intellect surmises. Speaking to you is like having an out-of-body conversation. I got guns. Come get 'em.
Newtown Effect October 13, 2013 at 08:49 PM
SHLongtimer, if it belongs to you, then tell those within Newtown who are using it to push their anti-gun agenda to take their hands off. I am responding to THEM, not to any families who refuse to blame guns. It stopped being about Newtown the moment those Newtown people decided to go National with their message, which is not a message of "please let us heal", but a message of "guns are evil". You know I'm right.
SH Longtimer October 13, 2013 at 08:57 PM
They have the right to say what they are saying just as you have the right to say what you are saying. All I am saying is PLEASE JUST NOT ON 12/14. By all means, have at each other on the 13th and on the 15th, but please leave us to grieve on the 14th. I know you folks think Sandy Hook Promise is all about gun control, but they are not. I won't argue that with you, just telling you what I know to be true. Even so, know that these words are from SHP: "December 14, 2013, exactly one year after the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School, is a day for parents to hug their children and people to embrace their families, not a day to talk about guns." They are saying that to BOTH sides of the debate. So please, embrace your family on that day, and be grateful you have them. Some people are not so fortunate.
porter gladstone October 13, 2013 at 09:02 PM
Ac I got guns --come get em? After you say I have feeble intellect? After you mess up the argument and then say what" change my mind like a liberal?" what the heck does any of this mean? I have an answer... you are a runt who needs a gun to do your fighting. Thats my guess. What would you do without a gun? Have to be reasonable? why dont you explain 'change my mind like a liberal. Then Ill know its me who has feeble intellect. haha ---by the way--im a conservative republican.......... I just have seen a lot of deaths as a result of guns and I understand why people want to limit access. But go ahead AC--what does that mean. (ill say it means absolutely nothing other than you need to be able to change your mind -after I explained to you why you messed up on your logic.)
porter gladstone October 13, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Newtown--a gun caused a lot of pain to these people. Would you object to a campaign against autism? Or Aspergers? You are not cerebral enough to understand why people associate the access to guns and the death of children to be normal.
porter gladstone October 13, 2013 at 09:09 PM
SH longtimer---Newtown effect has a strong emtional attachment to guns and this issue. He feels that the anti-gun people are wrongly going after his gun. In other words, he is emtional and is a victim of the anti-gun rhetoric. Watch how he has no self-awareness to understand his own emtions and his own playing the victim cards. All more than a bit scary when people with no self-awareness and no social awareness are allowed to own guns. Add to that a Napolean complex and the insecuties of being a tough guy all a recipe for a bad ending. When newtown effect eventually shoots someone--his gun compatriots will say " he had issues--he shouldnt have had a gun." But until the day that occurs --they will all defend the 'rights' of NE to own a gun. This is the way they operate....
Newtown Effect October 13, 2013 at 09:13 PM
SHLongtimer...you must have said something right, because I am strongly considering your comments. I hear what you are saying. Again, I am NOT out to get those in Newtown who simply want to remember their loved ones. I'm not. And to this day I have never sought out a fight with those people. But I simply do not trust the anti-gunners who have decided to make Newtown theirs and use it as an emotional beatdown tool on any legal gun owners, and to also use Newtown to try and change National gun laws. However...I hear what you are saying. If I promise to NOT challenge or confront those within Newtown who haven't allowed themselves to become puppets of an anti-2A agenda, can we agree to stay out of each other's way?
porter gladstone October 13, 2013 at 09:16 PM
its not anti-2a...but nice manipulation. its anti violence/anti mass murder/ anti thuggery--
SH Longtimer October 13, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Agreed, Newtown Effect. I'm just really concerned about my town & this "Gun Saves Lives Day." I don't know how to get people to understand how much this will hurt us. US, the citizens of Newtown, the Sandy Hook School family. Frankly, I'm scared of the repercussions. I hope they decide to forgo this plan. AND I hope that the anti-gun groups stay quiet, too. Can't everybody just shut up for one day so we can get thru it? It's going to be hard enough without all this animosity. And porter, I understand how you feel. I feel the same way when I read a lot of this stuff. Just know that your yelling back at them and belittling is not helping, either. All this yelling. I can't take it anymore. I really have to stop looking at these posts. Maybe it's time for me to get off the Patch.
Beth Crowley October 14, 2013 at 08:56 AM
SH Longtimer, your early posts about what it was like to be in that school that day haunt me. There are far more casualties of this horrible event than those who lost their lives or loved ones that day. I really don't think asking for one day of peace from the political fighting that has ensued following this tragedy is too much to ask especially on 12/14. My thoughts and prayers will be with you SH and all of Newtown on this day. I will do what I did last year after the shooting and choose love by committing anonymous random acts of kindness - it was powerful and healing and I highly recommend it.
Alex S October 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Let's play a hypothetical game of analogy, shall we? Say hypothetically that a 20-year old insane person drove a stolen car at a high rate of speed (85 in a 25) into a crowd of school kids, killing 20 of them and killing 6 of the teachers on staff. He was speeding, going at a high velocity, in a stolen car that did not belong to him, and without a legal CT driver's license, and this resulted in the deaths of 26 innocents. Now then, the community involved, (and some opportunistic persons who are excited about this situation, since they have long desired all high-velocity vehicles to be regulated and banned), decides to attack the car the killer used, vilifying it and making it into the sole reason for the deaths of these 26 innocent people. Grassroots organizations spring up. Vehicle Control groups throw in their support. The media eats it up. The press speaks only of the surviving families' trauma and pain, and that how they are now experts on all things vehicle related, since they have suffered this vehicular assault. The families involved are given carte blanche treatment and the career politicians in CT and in DC are quick to have many photos taken of themselves with said families. No mention is yet made of the mental capacity of the 20-year old killer. Through the demands of these victims' families and their concerned supporters (wolves in sheep's clothing, really), legislation is created that highly regulates all vehicles in CT so that "high-velocity" vehicles, like the one that killed innocents, are made illegal. This is all done "for the children" and "for the safety of the public".
Alex S October 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM
So there you are, an owner of a now illegal and banned "high-velocity" vehicle. --"Why was my vehicle banned?" Because it killed innocent kids. --"But I use my vehicle for driving." No one needs to be able to go over 65 MPH, like your high-velocity vehicle can do, to get where they are going. There's no reason anyone needs a vehicle that goes that fast. None. --"But my vehicle is legal." No, your vehicle is a threat to the general populace. --"But I keep my vehicle in a locked garage, emptied of gasoline, and under a tarp. I only use it on the weekends to go sport driving and for recreation. When I am not using it, I keep it locked-up." From now on you must get a flat-bed trailer and have your high-velocity vehicle towed to a local driving range/track. You cannot drive it on our streets. --"I've been driving these so-called "high-velocity" vehicles for years. I don't even have one speeding ticket, and I renew my driver's license according to the law. Why am I being punished?" You're not being punished. You can still have a vehicle. You just can't have that vehicle. It doesn't matter that you have shown yourself to be responsible. That high-velocity vehicle killed innocent kids. It needs to be removed from society. --"So what are my choices, then, if I can't have a legal 'high-velocity' vehicle any longer?" Well, you can sell it to someone out-of-state, provided their "high-velocity" vehicle laws allow it. Or you can register it with the DMV and the CT State Police as a "high-velocity" vehicle. Maybe then it will be okay to won. --"This seems like a huge emotional reaction to a situation that I had nothing to do with. I wasn't there when those kids were run over by that insane madman. I have a clean driving record. I keep my vehicle under lock and key when I am not driving it. I don't see how this will stop kids from being killed by drivers who speed. I have spent many hours and much money to be a safe driver who is knowledgeable and responsible." Stop complaining. This is being done for the children, and we must honor their memories. 90% of all Americans agree that these "high-velocity" vehicles are a threat to public safety. Even now we are trying to get Congress and President Obama to ban them Nationwide, like here in CT. You still have other vehicles to drive that we have deemed "safe". Stop complaining. If you don't like it, then move out of CT. So, dear gun control devotes. Do you see this differently now? Is this fair?
CJH2 October 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Malloy does not even know what he signed into law! He gave a interview on a local radio station last week and gave out total miss information that would get you arrested! It just goes to show The anti gunners don't know what they talk about, as long as they can take away the rights of others! Here is a link ............ http://www.examiner.com/article/connecticut-gun-group-shows-gov-malloy-does-not-understand-law-he-signed?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Newtown Effect October 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM
David Wheeler, whose 6-year-old son, Benjamin, was killed at Sandy Hook, said a more comprehensive system of identifying and monitoring individuals with mental distress needs to be created. "That a person with these problems could live in a home where he had access to among the most powerful firearms available to non-military personnel is unacceptable," he said. "It doesn't matter to whom these weapons were registered. It doesn't matter if they were purchased legally. What matters is that it was far too easy for another mentally unbalanced, suicidal person who had violent obsessions to have easy access to unreasonably powerful weapons." But Newtown resident Casey Khan warned that further restrictions on gun rights leave "good and lawful citizens at risk." >>>> http://bigstory.ap.org/article/conn-town-residents-urge-stricter-gun-control-0
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Alex.. If this was a unique car murder, and there were not any other similar incidents, then my guess is they would judge the driver and leave the tool of the driver out of the equation. But if this was the 8,000th car murder of the year, let me ask you Alex, do you think they would just leave everything the same? Not adjust or take a look at appropriate remedies? There are now approximately one mass killing per month. So if there were 1 car mass murder per month , do you think, Alex, they would simply ignore all the variables and only focus on 'mental health' or the reasons? Of course not. You attempt to ridicule those who react by looking at the elements involved. They recognized in just one incident that shoes are capable of containing explosive material --so they react and look to take precautions. You may think that is over the top as well, but your ridicule is misplaced. When killers use certain tools with varying degrees of repetition, the natural reaction is to limit the access to that tool of destruction. Im talking murder here, so please dont come back and say that there are many car accidents etc... it would be intellectually dishonest.
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM
We've gone over this before. But this thread is about the pro-gun people not being sensitive to the town of Newtown and instead trying to cause confrontation at a time that would be incredibly inappropriate. And instead of being normal, and recognizing how callous they would be, instead they introduce the concept of the 2nd amendment and their rights. You guys just should not puff out your chests for once - being tough guys is not being strong. Be strong--do the right thing for the community and not for yourself.
Newtown Effect October 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM
porter...you really need to stop commenting. Seriously. You're not helping the anti-gun side. At all. Are you even able to read and form salient comments?
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Newtown...you really need to stop commenting. Seriously. You're not helping the pro-gun side. At all. Are you even able to read and form salient comments? Hope that clears it up. And thanks for meeting my expectations. When you find your logic fails, you walk away...and pretend you didnt say it.... which of your sign-ins will you use to respond? Ted, Newtown Alex? Sort of a fun game.
Paul Alexander October 14, 2013 at 01:02 PM
On 12/14 Newtown will be wall to wall satellite trucks many broadcasting the “We need to ban scary looking guns to keep this from happening again” message. Has Piers Morgan and Anderson Cooper received the “Nothing but Love” petition? I doubt it, but It really doesn’t matter. They and their ilk don’t care about Newtown. They will infest Newtown for the sole purpose of advancing their anti gun agenda and their ratings. Porter Gladstone is an anti-gun troll, possibly a paid professional. He is the same paid hack formerly known as Jimmy who vomited all over The Newtown patch during the 2012 election. The writing styles are identical. Jimmy disappeared after the 2012 election only to be reincarnated as Porter for the 12/14 anniversary, the next big lib issue. After 12/14 he’ll disappear again only to be reincarnated under some other name for some other lib issue.
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 01:14 PM
haha--yesterday you said i was a brit and that i increased postings around the election. I asked what election i was posting about as a brit. could you answer my question? Thanks paul.
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 01:15 PM
are you talking about jimmy pursey by the way?
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 01:19 PM
I believe this article had to do with a bunch of pro-gun people coming to town... i asked ray if he opposed them coming as outsiders--he curiously went silent. newtowon effect aka alex also goes silent when hypocrisy is revealed... and then you have anthonyscire--who is really tom falconieiri who misstates facts with incredible regularity. im just wondering paul, where your principles lay. they seem to be all over the map--just so long as it gets you what you want.
Paul Alexander October 14, 2013 at 01:37 PM
There is a +1.00 correlation in the writing styles of Jimmy and Porter. You should have made more of an effort to change your writing style when you changed your name. And BTW, the name “Jimmy” much more accurately reflected your adolescent style of writing and debating.
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 01:48 PM
Paul I asked a question--what election as a Brit are you correlating me with? Next--just to say I argued ad-nauseum with jimmy pursey. Im a republican --more a libertarian who believes that the democrats and their spending are ruining this country. I have kids who will bear the burden of the creation of debt. I happen to be a Vietnam combat Veteran who associates guns with tragedy. You need to open up your mind to understand that everyone who is not a big gun dude is not necessaily some left wing radical .... but again--I asked you to let me know what election, as a Brit I was involving myself in? Either that--or why not demonstrate some of the integrity that you call for on Patch and retract your statement that you probably realize makes no sense.
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 02:03 PM
also --more illogic-on one hand you're saying im a paid blogger -and the next you are saying I write like an adolescent. Are you saying that accusing me of being a (fill in the blank) liberal. An adolescent; etc is more mature and more intellectual in approach to debate? Im not so sure. You come out and accuse me of being various things and then are not big enough to try to support your own theory. Is that really the way you debate? In terms of my thoughts and what I stand for--you can take a look at my debate with a left wing liberal in the only blog i created.. http://darien.patch.com/blogs/porter-delivers-common-sense
porter gladstone October 14, 2013 at 07:35 PM
anthony i asked you yesterday to tell us what article in the United States Constitution says no gun can be over 50 caliber. This was what you told us many times. MANY MANY TIMES. Yet everytime i ask you to tell me where in the Constittion it says that you walk away. Are you really for accuracy? facts? How about your claim yesterday that Mrs Nancy Lanza was a school teacher in Sandy Hook. That is well known to be false--yet you are not capable of just saying youre wrong. If you want to get on Patch and cry and whine about 'inaccuracies" then dont leave such false claims out there. By the way Newtown EFFECT is obviously not anti-gun...as you claim above-
AnthonyScire October 14, 2013 at 07:37 PM
among the most powerful firearms available to non-military personnel is unacceptable>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nonsense and the man does not know what he is talking about if he is referring to the AR15 Rifle. People like this should not be allowed to make false comments like this. And by the way he never said anything or asked the governor or the president i might add to address mental health issues. And further more Fairfield hills which just happens to be in Newtown was closed by these GUN HATING DEMOCRATS without one speck of concern for anyone's safety. So once again the GUN HATERS are as usual always pounding guns and gun owners. What else is new in Newtown. The gun haters of the entire world reside in Newtown and it is disgraceful !!.
AnthonyScire October 14, 2013 at 07:40 PM
David Wheeler wrote this >>unreasonable powerful weapons....Clearly you are not versed on guns and should not post such garbage. First off the AR15 chambered in 223 is by no means an unreasonable powerful weapon. It is a trench gun used for close quarter combat. If for one second you anti gun Phonies would actually research what you are talking about you would not look so stupid to people versed in a subject.. The AR15 is a close quarters trench gun of mild power. at best. To say otherwise is plain and simple not true and a factual inaccuracy. I wish you anti gun clueless people would at least find out the facts before making yourself look silly!!
Tom Yeager October 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM
As a resident of Virginia I would like to commend and congratulate Connecticut for enacting the toughest gun control laws in the nation after the Sandy Hook tragedy.......Unfortunately many years after our own mass shooting tragedy at Virginia Tech-our gun control laws are still swiss cheese and baloney.......Our state legislature remains full of NRA hand puppets and Virginia remains the capital of illegal gun trafficking........Virginia has many things to be proud of-but our illegal and immoral gun trafficking to other states is a shame on us all........I wish the wonderful people of Newtown every moment of happiness you can possibly have.......You have all tried so hard to show other states and our Congress that our lack of national gun control is just as cold and crazy as the killers themselves.....Thank you for your past and future efforts to that effect.......
Alex S October 17, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Gun control stopped Adam Lanza from buying a legal gun, Tom Yeager. Or haven't you been paying attention? The guns he used were stolen. No law created can stop theft. As to Virginia being the "capital of illegal gun trafficking", prove it. Show us the reports from the FBI, ATF, CIA, whomever. Stick to Virginia, Tom. Those of us who live in CT are dealing with our own messes, thanks anyway.


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