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Final Debate Offers Last Licks for Romney, Obama

In the last debate before the Nov. 6 election, candidates Romney and Obama argued the 900-pound gorilla of the election, foreign policy. Will the winner carry his momentum to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

 

They both know what they are talking about, don't they? 

President Obama killed it when speaking about Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden. Governor Romney mastered China and the economy. Astonishingly, very little was said about the recent Libyan disaster and the sad, dangerous situation in Syria. Yet perhaps even more astonishingly, there were several times when Romney and Obama appeared to —gasp! — agree. 

Nevertheless, there were two sharp areas of contrast. The first? The economy, which both candidates continued to debate vigorously even though the evening's topic was officially foreign policy. 

The second? The appearance of presidentiality. 

As an observer, I found it very curious that Romney did not hammer home the popular conservative talking points of the Libyan and Syrian disasters, both huge weaknesses for the current administration. Instead, in a thought-provoking twist, Romney chose to agree with Obama's strategies, again and again.

Even more interesting was the Romney strategy of not just embracing, but actively promoting, world peace. In this way, Romney effectively defused Obama's central effort to paint Romney as a reckless and dangerous warmongering flip-flopper who is unfit to lead the nation.

Like the last debate, Obama was well spoken and argued his points effectively. But instead of defining a clear plan for the future of the nation, he instead chose to go on the attack, defaulting to petty, condescending remarks ("We have these things called aircraft carriers!") and, as in the first debate, appeared nearly angry.

And, by the way, the military does still use bayonets. Sorry, Mr. President.

Clearly, President Obama was well prepared to answer each of moderator's Bob Schieffer's questions; he was smooth and knowledgeable. But as I watched Governor Romney take the broad view, I observed President Obama delving deeply into little-known details, apparently to demonstrate his foreign policy prowess.

But the result was that Obama appeared more like a mid-level policy wonk than a top level world leader. Obama's decision to use his time to attack Romney's positions instead of define his own policy for the next four years will hurt him; how many times do we need to hear Obama accuse Romney of wanting to cut taxes for wealthy "folks", even though Romney has denied it, convincingly, countless times?

Obama spoke and acted more like a desperate challenger —I attempted to measure the number of interruptions, but lost count after the first segment— rather than the man who has led the greatest nation in the world for the past nearly-four years. So while he may have earned audience giggles for some well-timed comments, in the end, I don't believe he added anything new to the national conversation.

For a victory, all Romney had to do was demonstrate knowledge of the most salient foreign policy topics of the day and appear presidential. He didn't have to trounce Obama like he did in the first debate; he only had to perform well enough to assure the American people that he is qualified to be the nation's top diplomat.

In this respect, Romney is the clear winner. He was by far more presidential. He clearly demonstrated his preference for staying above the muck of nasty allegations, as all presidents should. That's because he is a big picture thinker, as all leaders are. Best of all, he rejected the stereotypical warmonger's posture by promoting peace and prosperity for all, and with it the halfhearted attempt by Obama to paint him as George W. Bush redux.

But my favorite part was the final statement, when Romney stated his ability to reach across the aisle to work with "good Democrats and good Republicans" to craft policy initiatives that will move 100 percent of the world toward peace and prosperity.

And that's the kind of hope and change this voter believes in.

John Soo October 26, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Lisa, You are WELL AWARE of the fact that that Romney was WIDELY criticized for his inflammatory and opportunistic comments after the Libya embassy attacks. At the time, CBS NEWS wrote of Romney's comments: 'The conventional wisdom emerged in Washington almost immediately that Mitt Romney's handling of the violence in Egypt and Libya was a disaster.' Yet you quite intentionally make no mention this episode in this piece. It's obvious that your article seeks to undo the damage of these remarks without making mention of them. So you write: 'Romney was by far more presidential. He clearly demonstrated his preference for staying above the muck of nasty allegations, as all presidents should.' Really? Where was this 'preference' when he made the comments about Obama after the Libya attacks? Or does that not interest you in making this supposedly unbiased assessment of Romney? Yet again, you write a Pro-Republican piece under the pretense that you are 'looking at all the facts'. That truth is, every piece you write is Pro-Republican. It's predetermined. What bothers me is how you craft your articles to hide this predetermination. If you were seriously interested in how 'presidential' Romney is you would have delved into all the awkward episodes that bring this into question.
Paul Alexander October 26, 2012 at 01:20 PM
UnskewedPolls.com as of Friday 10/26/12 Romney adding to his lead. Obama unfavorable’s rising http://unskewedpolls.com/
Paul Alexander October 26, 2012 at 02:30 PM
The Dems enlist the UN... “TEXAS Tells UN Poll Watchers: Don’t Even Try It” “The Daily Caller reports that Texas is balking at the idea of U.N. involvement. In a letter sent by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, the AG warns that U.N. poll watchers “do not have jurisdiction in the state and will, therefore, be criminally prosecuted if they attempt to interfere at Texas polling locations on Nov. 6.”” http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/texas-tells-un-poll-watchers-dont-even-try-it/ The Florida AG is considering similar action. Yee Haw! That's how it’s done in the less edumacated, cracker states! Don’t Mess with Texas. Don’t Mess with Florida. Let the UN weenies congregate in Connecticut.
Paul Alexander October 26, 2012 at 02:33 PM
The 10th Ammendment...28 words of pure bliss. Give it a read sometime, Barry.
Paul Alexander October 26, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Rasmussen Presidential daily Tracking Poll for Friday, October 26th - The most accurate Presidential poll in the 2008 election. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Friday, October 26, 2012 "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided. This is the fourth consecutive day that Romney has been at the 50% level of support. He has enjoyed a three- or four-point edge on each of those days." "These Presidential Tracking Poll updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, today is the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the final presidential debate."
Paul Alexander October 26, 2012 at 08:31 PM
...Oooops...
Veritas vos liberabit October 26, 2012 at 09:51 PM
8:31PM EDT October 25. 2012 - Call this the Age of Anxiety. Gas costs an average $3.59. A huge storm is set to claw its way up the East Coast. And if the other guy wins the presidential election, the Republic will collapse, Yosemite will erupt, and we'll all be forced to bow to our new, deeply evil overlords. But take a breath. Despite all the calamities, real and imagined, you can take comfort in the fact that your 401(k) plan is probably doing fairly well. You can thank financial markets, employer contributions and your own good sense for that. The average stock mutual fund has gained 11.4% this year, and 124% since the stock market's bottom on March 9, 2009, according to Lipper. And even though the Standard & Poor's 500 has yet to match its Oct. 9, 2007, high, your 401(k) has, most likely, done exactly that.
Thomas Crafts October 26, 2012 at 10:53 PM
But your net worth has been cut in half. Have a nice day!
Veritas vos liberabit October 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM
You lose! How can you make such a dumb ASSumption?
Dee Dee October 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM
At least we already know NOT to believe Obama!
Dee Dee October 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM
Too bad 20 some million of us may have had to borrow on that 401K in order to survive unemployment - oops!
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 12:49 AM
The national average price for a gallon of gasoline on January 20th, 2009 was $1.84.
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 02:50 PM
Today, the national average price for a gallon of gasoline is $3.58...a 95 % gain. Nearly a double in four years. And that's AFTER the recent decline from $4+. Obama's energy policies will drive gasoline to over $6 a gallon in the next four years. Probably closer to $8 a gallon. Believe it. Steven Chu, Obama's Energy Secretary wants gasoline to be $9 - $10 a gallon... “Somehow,” we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” - Steven Chu, Energy Secretary And whatever the NATIONAL average price for gasoline is, it will be HIGHER in CT.
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll for Saturday, October 27, 2012. The most accurate poll in the 2008 Presidential election. "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 46%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and another two percent (2%) are undecided. This is the fifth consecutive day that Romney has been at the 50% level of support. He has enjoyed a three- or four-point edge on each of those days." http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Veritas vos liberabit October 27, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Here's a must watch interview with a Republican, career Army Officer (Colonel), on the current state of the GOP..... http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/10/26/colin-powells-former-chief-of-staff-my-party-is-full-of-racists/
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 03:21 PM
...yawn... The "R" word. Its been tried for so long no one buys it anymore. You'll see REAL acts of racism if Obama loses. Nice try Sully.
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 03:40 PM
“Tweets Reveal Obama Supporters Fueled by ‘Racial Hatred’” “Not content with making violent death threats and promising riots if Obama loses, Obama voters have flooded Twitter with racist slurs targeting Mitt Romney and his supporters, an irony given the fact that those who have drawn attention to the death threats being made against Romney have been accused of “race-baiting”.” http://www.infowars.com/tweets-reveal-obama-supporters-fueled-by-racial-hatred/ Oh, and if you are a black public figure who supports Romney, the racism directed your way is particularly disgusting… “Clueless” actress Stacey Dash is rolling with Mitt Romney for President — remaining undeterred by the racially-based Twitter attacks against her.” http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-10-08/news/34326812_1_stacey-dash-romney-supporters-mitt-romney Read some the actual tweets. They’re disgusting. But not disgusting enough I guess to be covered by the Main Stream Media, or Sully. http://www.prisonplanet.com/threats-to-assassinate-romney-explode-after-debate.html
Veritas vos liberabit October 27, 2012 at 03:50 PM
You're in Denial skipper. How's the weather? ps: you need a LIfe!
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 03:56 PM
The weather is fine here. Sunny and the palm trees are swaying. Sandy was a non event here. Sandy is your problem now. Don't ignore her. Packing for an 8 day adventure in the Bahamas. My life is so pathetic!
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 04:03 PM
...or The Newtown Patch...
Paul Alexander October 27, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Does this please anyone??? http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/960/img/photos/2012/10/26/7d/77/102712-Billboard.jpg
Big Family October 27, 2012 at 11:10 PM
When you think it can't more disgraceful...four Heroes are killed in Lybia and not a word from Obama or the media! what is wrong with these people? I couldn't care less about your politics, how can people just let this go? These Heroes were told NO three times when they asked for backup. Obama should step down. He isn't qualified for the office.
Big Family October 28, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Once again I'm still "Pending Approval" Jaimie what are you so afraid of. Don't post this either because you don't have the balls!
Big Family October 28, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Jaimie, when are you going to post my other comment? I thought you would be an improvement from Christina Rose...boy do I miss her!
Big Family October 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Just when you think it can't get more disgraceful...Four heroes are killed in Libya and not a word from Obama or the media! what is wrong with these people?I couldn't care less about your politics, but how can people just let this go? These Heroes were told NO three times when they asked for backup. Obama should step down. He isn't qualified for the office.
DPD October 28, 2012 at 01:47 AM
BF - HOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOWN GIRL ! BF - " Don't post this either because you don't have the balls!" This is a G rated family board with rules of conduct. You're not at some tea party hate board. Clean it up or get out! ps: did you catch this great video from a republican US Army war hero, colonel?
G October 28, 2012 at 03:07 AM
To the Editor: Please post Big Family's posts immediately; I mean as soon as she/he hits the submit key. His/her posts are extremely important to all of us, and tell us how we should think and how we should vote. Big Family does not have a lot of time to wait to see Big Family's post online. He/she is a very important person and Big Family should not have to wait for "approval" like everyone else. And to everyone else who posts here (other than Big Family), please be considerate and realize that Big Family's post are pretty important for all of us! Thank you all.
MAC October 28, 2012 at 06:47 AM
Obama is the consummate opportunist. He had influential people paving his way every step since getting into the elite Punahou school in Honolulu. His grades obviously didn't get him into Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law, since he freely admits to skipping classes in high school, using drugs and drinking as a teen, and keeps all his papers, transcripts etc. a huge SECRET! Being a "community organizer" is obviously the worst 'preparation' for being POTUS! Most Americans voting for "the One" in 2008 did so for guilt, racial or other "identity politics" or emotional reasons--falling for the "Hope and Change" balderdash and being totally scammed by the deceptive rhetoric. It is not only in the presidential voting, but sadly, probably half the voters (or more) are quite uninformed on the candidates and their positions on the issues and economic matters. They vote as if they are voting for "American Idol"! Thus we are stuck with incompetent 'career politicians'! Romney is a stellar successful executive, and has already proved himself to be more presidential than Obama in the debates. Obama has also proven himself to be totally a failure on the Economy and a disaster in foreign relations--especially for Israel, and for those like Amb. Chris Stevens whom he callously SACRIFICED along with 3 other Americans!! Romney is going to put an end to Obama's political career on Nov. 6th!
Big Family October 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM
G, Thanks so much for explaining my position.
Barbara R November 16, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Because of the economic collapse in late 2008 from GW Bush policies. Gas prices in June 2008 were over $4.00 a gallon.

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