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Banning Guns is Not the Way to Go

Surrounding the Sandy Hook school shooting there has been the inevitable discussion about guns and gun control. The one thing everyone can all agree on is that we are beyond sad about it.

This was not the blog I originally intended to publish today.  I’m going to save that one, with a much brighter focus, for next week.  The Sandy Hook school shooting has caused a national outcry, and the one thing everyone can all agree on is that we are beyond sad about it. And we are angry.  And no matter what is done, we cannot bring back the lives of those who were lost.

Surrounding this event, there has been the inevitable discussion about guns and gun control.

The truth is that if we banned handguns, any psychotic monster like the one who committed the heinous-beyond-comprehension attack on the Connecticut school children yesterday would have used a shotgun, rifle or perhaps another type of weapon.  People who are on illogical and inhumane missions to destroy others and have no regard for their own lives will use whatever means necessary, even if not officially deemed a weapon to carry out their attacks. We all remember the attack on the World Trade Center.  How many of us ever thought of using airplanes as weapons of mass destruction before?  Not me.

So the question is, are we as United States citizens willing to forsake our right to bear firearms as civilians?  I’m not; and I’ll explain why.

I’m fully aware that this is a serious topic, especially following yesterday's terrible tragedy. I know that many will oppose my opinions; however, there has got to be a middle ground for any solution to really work.

Most people who commit these kinds of killing spree crimes are not licensed to have guns in the first place. People will always find a way to get them no matter what the gun control laws are. Unfortunately, when people want more restrictive gun laws they are targeting a population of people who legally embrace the second amendment to the constitution, by going through proper licensing and background checks, which in most situations is NOT the crazy person who will buy a gun on the black market or steal one to cause harm.

There will always be some insane jackass who wants to cause harm by any means. How do we prevent someone from going off the deep end, and if not using a gun, resort to a bomb, or other method of madness against an innocent portion of the population? That is the key.

The people that do go through proper licensing to bear arms do it for one of four reasons - self defense, defending others (as in police officers), hunting, and collecting/hobbyist/occasionally go to a shooting range).  As an American citizen I would like the option to be able to defend myself and my child against maniacs like this if the situation need be.

When we had Hurricane Sandy in NJ, people were without power for weeks. No power means no alarm systems work. We could barely get signals on our cell phones to call for help if we needed to. People were stealing generators out of neighbors’ backyards and stealing gas to run them, too. If someone wanted to break into a dark cold house thinking that they were going to do some looting, they probably could have, and in some cases did. Would I want to be a female with a child in the house at night, in the dark, absolutely defenseless?  Um, no.

What about this idea:  maybe it should be easier for a person to get and carry a gun, but in a very controlled way.  Just entertain this idea for a minute:  What if the process to obtain a gun permit is regulated a lot more, while keeping the availability of guns intact (not automatic weapons – there’s a big difference)?  It would be hard at first to achieve the results we want, but if everyone (or almost everyone) carried a gun and knew how to use it, the thrill of carrying one when you aren’t supposed to would be diminished.  Not only that, but if you tried anything funny, you would know right away that chances are, with a room full of people pointing a gun at you, you’re not going to get away with it.

Like punishment for breaking laws, if the penalties and consequences (in this case knowing that there is an armed population around you) were stricter, you'd see reduced crime.  Instead, most first offenders of anything get a slap on the wrist and go out and become repeat offenders.  If you have a great enough deterrent in the first place (like an ARMED police officer at each school), some lunatics would think twice before going on a shooting spree in a school.  And yes, you will always have a crazy one who doesn't care if they die in the process of hurting others....so they will try to cause harm regardless.  You can’t ban crazy. But you know what? If you plant someone in that school who is trained to kill a psycho like this, chances are that psycho won't kill many or any.

Teachers are supposed to act like defenders now anyway - armed or not. They are the unarmed front line protecting our children. That just doesn't seem right to me. They need backup that works.

If we left the decision to hire armed personnel at schools up to school funding, then poorer districts would not have as adequate defense as those with more money to spend. My guess is that this would have to be a Federal mandate that requires a trained officer or personnel to be present at every school.

We place a lot of responsibilities upon educators already.  They are expected to be care givers, teachers, counselors, referees, and now defenders and protectors of our children. When you introduce the element of a psycho maniac attacking children, that just ups the ante and now they are expected to defend and protect our children without a means that really works.

Training teachers how to pull shades down in schools, turn the lights off, and walk kids out in single file lines (depending upon the situation) just isn't enough.  So do we start training combination teacher/security officers or do we hire separate staff to stand guard? I'm fine with either solution, really. I just think if you forced teachers into a training program to carry guns, not everyone would go for that who wants to become a teacher. It could potentially narrow down the population of those who want to become teachers because they don’t want to be put in that position where they have to be focused on simultaneously educating our children, while having eyes in the back of their heads to take out trouble. Plus, if you've got someone elderly teaching versus someone younger and more agile, that wouldn't make sense to assume they all would be comfortable and capable of defending children. Hire the big guys with the big guns to protect our kids, I think.

Banning guns doesn’t prevent people from going crazy and killing others.  They will just find another means to execute their madness unless there is a measure put in place to stop them at the front line.  Crazy doesn’t rationalize.  The only thing that speaks to crazy is the action that if you do this, we’re going to put a bullet in your brain and stop you, period.

 

This blog post was originally published on the author's own website:  http://TheLadyinRedBlog.com

 

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Stace December 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Let me get this right. Instead of stricter regulations about who can buy guns, what guns they can buy, and how many they can 'collect', and how they are stored... you want teachers to carry a gun, or employ an armed security guard in each school. On what level is that a logical approach? I'm shaking my head in amazement, wondering why the US can't understand that the rest of the world is horrified at your priorities. Look up Australia's gun law reforms of 1996. We still have guns in 2012. We still have farmers who use them to get rid of vermin, we still have sporting shooters (my best friend of 40 years is one of them), we still have hunters, and we still have gunshot deaths when a husband finds his wife in bed with his best friend or a criminal shoots someone against whom he holds a grudge. What we DON'T have is the regular massacre of lots of innocent people. Why you wouldn't take action to prevent that - considering the statistics of mass murder in the US made so much easier by the ridiculously overpowered weaponry available - amazes the rest of us.
Laura Madsen December 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Kelley, you do have a valid point. Living in the U.S. is very different from living in other countries so it's very hard for others to speak to our laws unless they have lived with them.
Laura Madsen December 16, 2012 at 01:05 PM
I would like to add a few thoughts to what I had written above. First, you can't ban everything. On the same day that this happened in Newtown, someone in China used knives to carry out insane crimes against children. Here is the article.: http://news.yahoo.com/knife-wielding-man-injures-22-children-china-064458804.html Anyone determined to cause harm, when there is no line of defense will find a way to do it unfortunately. Even if all guns were banned, they would find a way to get them illegally (think how drugs are obtained in the U.S.), or use other methods of malicious attack. Sick people tend to find the most vulnerable points of attack on people - places where there is no or not adequate protection. Our schools are full of primarily women and children, without guards or weapons, Also, to another point, I have an elementary school age daughter. She is aware of what happened in Connecticut. She has been in a school lockdown situation in New Jersey when she was in first grade because of some maniac on the loose targeting schools. I asked her what she would think if there were a police officer or military personnel at her school every day. She responded that she would feel safer and that she would even thank them for protecting everyone. We have security at airports, why not at schools.
Laura Madsen December 16, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Hi Ashik, I wish what you say were true. Unfortunately, just like drugs are obtained illegally in the U.S., guns would still be obtained the same way. And if guns were not the weapons of choice, these sickos would find another means to attack the innocent. I had posted something about this further in the comments below, with more explanation, so I won't repeat myself here.
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 01:19 PM
Stace you of course don't even know what you are talking about. We have rights unlike Australia. "the ridiculously overpowered weaponry. Yes a 5.56 is SO ridculously more overpowered than a 30-06 Lame. All you can offer is Shill & Hysteria...You don't even know what you are talking about. Or yet we can cite Switzerland with over 400,000 fully automatic SIG StG 90's and many other variants. Yet this is Switzerland's 'horrible' crime rate lol. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm <---Learn something before you speak lol.
Vee Robillard December 16, 2012 at 03:20 PM
First of all, I don't think ANYONE in their right mind, is suggesting that it would be POSSIBLE, let alone advisable, to Ban guns in the USA. Your death toys are too entrenched in your cultural identity to ever suggest that anyone could possibly take them away from you. But you CAN and SHOULD make it MUCH more difficult to obtain guns. This is what is needed. Stricter gun control. Not Banning them. (except for automatic weapons).
QuiverFullaKidz December 16, 2012 at 05:13 PM
It is ridiculous that in the light of such a horrific tragedy people have time to post comments about "the right to bear arms"! Would anyone have the courage to tell the moms and dads of these 26 victims their position on this matter? Could you tell one of these victims moms that "adam would have gotten a gun anyway..even if legislation was tighter...when people want to kill they find a way" Really people. These families are GRIEVING the loss of their loved ones especially their innocent babies!! Unless you have given birth to your own children and can remotely identify with the breathless, numbing pain of losing your 6 year old...than really you can keep your opinions to yourself!! Now is not the time to air this matter over public blogs! Now is the time to pray and help these parents who probably can't even stand up and walk today...to breathe again. Instead of Blogging go find one of these families and give them a HUG!!! Or post something to encourage their aching hearts. I can't believe the nerve of some young people and their opinions. According to scripture there is a "season" for all things!! Now is not the time or season for all of this conversation. Wait some time...be in the right season...but two days after the event...that's not it!!!
Jack December 16, 2012 at 05:41 PM
The next item we'll hear is we should arm the students so they can protect themselves. People should hear themselves and how stupid they sound!
Jack December 16, 2012 at 05:44 PM
The fact is that if the guns were not available to him it wouldn't have happened!
Jack December 16, 2012 at 05:51 PM
There are billions of dollars made by american gun manufacturers and dealers and it's increasing every day. Remember how hard it was with the corporate lying about tobacco products before the little legislation we have was passed. Maybe they'll allow a warning label on a .223 bushmaster that's illegal to hunt with!
Jack December 16, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Because most school districts have great difficulty getting adequate funding for teachers, books, supplies, etc and this added on would take away from such.
Erika December 16, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Stop it , People with guns kill people. Ban firearms or at least have stricter gun laws.I feel as if I am living in the wild west . No home needs a semi automatic they are not toys. THEY KILL and always the inocent . For heavens sake what was his mother thinking...all those guns and a troubled and ill youth.
Erika December 16, 2012 at 06:17 PM
Thank you, exactly my sentiments.
Bob Jean December 16, 2012 at 06:42 PM
The gun debate isn't about "banning" guns. It's about gun safety and reasonable regulation. This was carried out with an assault rifle. It was legal. People have a constitution right to bear arms. The Supreme Court said that the government could put reasonable restrictions on guns. The restrictions on the guns used in Newtown did not reasonably protect these children's constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness. Gun owners are not the only ones with constitutional rights. There is more than one right contained in the constitution.
Valerie Pineda December 16, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Notice the children in China were injured- NOT DEAD- or shot multiple times. Shouldn't the goal be "we can do better"- not we're sorry your kids are dead, but it would've happened anyway????????
Lance Wyllie December 16, 2012 at 07:28 PM
Notice the difference? 22 injured.... NOT killed. Your argument is ridiculous. I guess we should abolish speed limits, because people will speed anyway. Had Mrs. Lanza collected knives, she very well may have had the same fate, but I can assure you Adam Lanza would have most likely never set foot in that school. I don't know who are scarier, demented people like Adam Lanza or the people like yourself that argue that there should be equal access across the board to guns for anyone.
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Vee first off you don't even know what you are talking about. Tell me what the NFA is....???? It would be nice If some of you had some or Ian idea of what you talking about in the first place.
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Bob you don't even know what an assault weapon is.
Dominic December 16, 2012 at 08:03 PM
This blog is the kind of argument that's repeated every time this kind of tragedy happens. Nothing gets done and it happens again and again...We, as Sandy Hook parents, have an obligation to speak out! There's no logical reason for any private person to collect semiautomatic assault weapons! if somebody wants a handgun to protect their family home, fine! But you don't need assault weapons unless you're invading a country! It's time to reinstate the ban on assault weapons! Note that Adam Lanza was denied when he wanted to purchase a gun himself, so your argument that mentally disturbed people could get their hands on guns if they wanted to doesn't stick. The only reason he was able to kill so many kids in our school was because he had easy acces to assault weapons at his family home! The most important thing now is to help the families, no doubt, but we as a community should say something to prevent similar tragedies from happening!
G December 16, 2012 at 08:03 PM
The gunman's mother certainly had access to guns. How'd that work out for her?
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 08:04 PM
Quiver yet Obama and the Democrats are crudely making it it. The day of the tragedy and beyond......
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 08:08 PM
Dominic a logical reason besides a right to do so.
Marcus Poulin December 16, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Erika "ban firearms"? You've already lost that day in court. http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2012/12/astonishing_rul.php
Laura Madsen December 16, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Tomorrow at 11AM EST, I will be joining two other gentlemen on radio, broadcasting from Atlanta on the topic of gun control. If you would like to listen in, you can do so here: http://tinyurl.com/bnaccs3 This topic will be spoken about since it has surfaced as a result of the tragedy here. The radio broadcast will focus on statistics and will totally ignore any emotional outcry. Twenty children murdered in Harlem one at a time are the same as twenty children murdered here. We certainly understand that some people feel this is too soon to discuss this issue. We respect your right not to listen if you feel this is inappropriate. We will be doing our best to approach this super-sensitive and highly tragic issue with a total lack of sensationalism. We will be looking at the statistics on gun violence and gun control. One of the topics mentioned will also be this blog. If you are not able to listen in live, a recording of the broadcast will be made available to everyone afterwards on my personal blogging site.
Marcus Poulin December 17, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Wish I could join that debate as well. I am not as articulate as Christopher Hitchens but I am a rather good debater.
QuiverFullaKidz December 17, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Enjoying the radio broadcast. I loved everything Ian had to say:) I agreed so much with his reccomendations for stricter gun control laws! Laws that pertain to making it much more difficult to obtain gun licensing and the accountability that is vital in monitoring people who own guns. I also loved his ideas about making guns much more individually "fingerprinted" but he says the NRA is opposed to this. I enjoyed Laura's position on more safety and screeing at schools. Schools should not be opening doors for just anybody and letting them in and theres should be security guards at school. Unfortunately I did not enjoy damon's comments at all. he seems selfish and only concerned with "HIS" rights to bear arms..the hell with the world at large..and the people who "DO NOT" own firearms as "responsibly" (as he does) :(
Laura Madsen December 17, 2012 at 06:04 PM
Thank you for listening, QuiverFullaKidz, and leaving your comments here. I truly hope that a solution can be found that protects our children and teachers in schools.
Laura Madsen December 17, 2012 at 06:05 PM
The sound bite of today's radio broadcast from Atlanta, with myself and two other guests, about gun control in the wake this tragedy is now available to listen to. Click here --> http://www.theladyinredblog.com/awesome-moments.html and scroll down to "On the Radio in Atlanta" to listen. Thank you to all of the callers who participated in this discussion, and we wish we had had more time to hear from more of you. We understand that some people feel that this is too soon to discuss this issue, and we respect your right to not listen if you feel this is inappropriate. We did our best to approach super-sensitive and highly tragic issue with a total lack of sensationalism.
Ben Vitale April 07, 2013 at 05:17 PM
Laura: I agree with you 100%. When I was in the Auxiliary Police officer, our relief point and meeting room was inside of a School. I am sure that the “Police” sign on the door would make someone with bad intensions, think twice. While on an Auxiliary Police routine training patrol with two other APOs, we accidentally approached a police officer who was trying to control six alleged criminals who were inside of a car. The criminals saw a distinct advantage in their favor, six of them and one Police officer. The officer was ordering them to stay in the car, and the criminals were ignoring his orders; the situation was going from bad to worse! I pulled up with three armed APOs, four including me; it is amazing how quickly the cowards, turned into angels. A show of force is the only outward sign that the criminal element understands! The Auxiliary Police was a volunteer service; the other side of my life was in Academia. I know how easy it is to get caught up in an environment of “Wine, Cheese, and Chamber Music.” When you are continually surrounded by the most intelligent, articulate and reasonable people in the world, you soon lose touch with the fact that criminals are a fact of life, and are not at all reasonable. Without a means of protection, the criminal element will have the absolute power to kill me and my entire family, at will! Again, a show of force is the only outward sign that the criminal element understands!
Archie Bunker April 07, 2013 at 06:08 PM
Our Gov tells it like it is !!!! Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy (D) ripped National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre on Sunday as someone who reminds him of “the clowns at the circus.” Malloy was responding to LaPierre’s criticism of Connecticut’s new gun restrictions, signed into law after December’s elementary school massacre in Newtown. LaPierre said the new rules won’t affect criminals but will only make things harder for law-abiding citizens. “Wayne reminds me of the clowns at the circus. They get the most attention and that’s what he’s paid to do,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “This guy is so out of whack, it’s unbelievable. Ninety-two percent of the American people want universal background checks. I can’t get on a plane as the governor of the state of Connecticut without somebody running a background check on me. Why should you be able to buy a gun? Or buy armor-piercing ammunition? It doesn’t make any sense — he doesn’t make any sense, thus my reference to the circus.”

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